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Girls’ Dealbreakers
Yesterday India Knight mentioned dealbreakers on BBC Radio 4’s Woman’s Hour programme and lots of people picked it up on twitter. In fact, there’s an individual dealbreakers twitter account as well set up by a lady called Emily.
I remembered that in February 2004, when dating dealbreakers was a very relevant topic for me, I’d done a survey in the office and found that lots of people had a list. And as I had the list of dealbreakers for guys to hand yesterday, I put it up here.
So, here’s the full story. In pseudo-scientific way, I’ve included the question I asked – and all the responses are in the order they were submitted and are unedited.
The email I sent to colleagues: “Recent discussions have led me to try to put together a list of minor quibbles that a yound woman might have with a man. you know – those tiny things you notice where you suddenly think “oh no, this is never going to work…”. We’re talking the immediate turn-offs, dealbreakers. give me your suggestions and i’ll put together a list for a vote…”
The Summary: “hardly scientific, but in summary…
– girls seem to have a greater tendency to pick up the small details early on – spotting things which are immediate turn-offs. ones which got lots of votes were: bad teeth, white socks (not on a gym day) and there were various opinions on hair – but the gist was that back/neck not ideal.
– boys have a tendency not to pick up small details at first – tends to be the obvious physical points – but then can build a big list of what i’d call bug-bears later on – attitudinal things which they notice once they’re in a relationship.”
GIRLS will find the following things about BOYS a “dealbreaker”…
- * someone who gets their nails done
- * someone who spends more time in the bathroom than you
- * use of the word “lounge” or “toilet” (as in “I’m just going to the toilet”)
- * VEST TOPS – ESPECIALLY IN THE WINTER – ESPECIALLY WHEN WORN AS EVENING WEAR
- * EAR HAIR , NOSE HAIR, VERY BUSHY EYEBROWS THAT NEED TO BE TRIMMED
- * EARRINGS
- * A WALT DISNEY TYPE TIE
- * NAFF BOXER SHORTS WITH SILLY PICTURES ON (IF IT GETS THAT FAR)
- * KEEPS HIS SOCKS ON (IF IT GOES FURTHER)
- * SOVEREIGN RINGS ARE ALSO A BIG NO NO!
- * FLASH WITH CASH
- * TIGHT WITH MONEY (ed. jeesus – you have to get it just right, don’t you!!)
- * puts x at the bottom of a text when he hardly knows you
- * hairy back
- * hairy chest
- * A SMALL GATHERING OF HAIRS ON CHEST IS WORSE! A THIRTY SOMETHING STILL GOING THROUGH PUBERTY!
- * comb-overs – go bald with grace!!
- * hairy backs of necks
- * HIGHLIGHTS
- * bright white trainers
- * bright white trainers with jeans
- * WHITE SOCKS WITH DARK SHOES
- * wears briefs, or God forbid speedos to the beach
- * being effeminate
- * Obssessed by any sport!
- * Into crap music but thinks he’s cool
- * Maniac driver
- * Sexist
- * Bleaching of any kind
- * Sweaty armpits – that is insistent on displaying – bo of any kind
- * Fast cars
- * Men who lean in too close and spit on you as they gibber at you.
- * brummie accent
- * tracksuit bottoms
- * won’t dance/ can’t dance
- * general scratching
- * bad table manners
- * sweaty/ clammy hands
- * Excessive PDAs (Public Displays of Affection for anyone not in the know!)
- * Dwarf qualities
- * BAD TEETH
- * sitting strangely
- * Goatees
- * Men who collect anything (this happened to an old flatmate of mine. She went to a new man’s house for the first time to find his bed
- covered in soft toys).
- * Men who spend an excessive amount of time in the gym
- * Men who still see their ex girlfriend. A lot. And alone.
- * Men who refer to you as ‘babe’
- * Men who still live with their parents
- * Men who drink wine in the pub (maybe that’s just me)
- * no socks
- * no socks and loafers
- * Men who sit with their legs excessively wide apart
- * Picks his nose
- * Uses excessive amounts of hair gel
- * Overly tactile and clingy
- * or not tactile AT ALL
- * Carries a man-bag
- * A GUY WHO TURNS UP SMELLING AS IF HE’S COVERED HIMSELF FROM HEAD TO FOOT WITH 5 BOTTLES OF AFTER SHAVE
- * walking strangely
- * non-manly hands
- * sends red roses (ed. too much cliche apparently, not enough imagination)
- * books a romantic weekend for two – but chooses paris
- * being too masculine… farting in bed, etc.
- * bad breath
- * man without a plan
- * makes comments on your weight/eating
- * being a football hoolie
- * cheapness
- * white socks on non gym days
- * high trousers
- * Cheap Argos jewellary and lots of it
- * Crap Ringtones on fones ( i.e. feminine ringtones)
- * more make up than me
- * Hair worn brushed forward with pleanty of gel re prime trisha contestant
- * fussy eaters
- * brogue wearers
- * nasal hair
- * small hands
- * using a carrier bag as a main bag (i.e some men carry lots of stuff with them in carrier bags)
- * carrying loads of stuff in trouser pockets
- * Long Finger nails and long toe nails
- * Extra Long Last finger nail
- * Masses of Armpit hair
Boys’ Dealbreakers
Some years ago I came across the concept of dealbreakers when a female friend chucked a bloke on a third date because two dealbreakers combined:
1. his use of language: he used the word toilet instead of loo/bathroom, as in ‘I’m going to the toilet’. And he said ‘lounge’ rather than front room / sitting room. I know, bizarre. This was combined with 2. his use of jewellery: he had a pinky ring and wore a thin gold chain round his neck. Combined with no.1 this was just too much.
So, I did a survey round the office – and it turns out that almost everyone has some kind of dealbreaker – however relaxed they say they are – however much they only care about the character.
Today, as India Knight has mentioned her dealbreakers on Radio 4’s Woman’s Hour, I thought I’d post the dealbreakers that my then work colleagues came up with. If you’re faint of heart, then read with a gentle health warning – these comments are word-for-word what was written down and in the order that they were sent to me. Enjoy, and please post your own below.
I’ll post the Girls’ dealbreakers tomorrow.
BOYS will find the following things about GIRLS a “dealbreaker”…
- her hands are more manly than yours / nails bitten raw
- insists on driving with her nose right up against the steering wheel when there’s no need at all
- she’s plump but still has a pierced belly button (and it really doesn’t work…)
- Too much make-up, or wears any base/foundation whatsoever
- Eats more than you at dinner
- Drinks pints
- Has big feet (ed. forgiveable if there’s a pay-off…)
- Has a wonderbra disguising a tiny bust. (If they’re small, that’s fine, just don’t dress them up to be something they’re not) (ed. also known as Millenium Dome Syndrome – ie looks big from the outside but fuck all to see when you get in there)
- False Titties!!
- Cellulite
- Smelly (fishy in particular) noony
- fat ankles
- Insists on telling you a non edited version of her day
- Thinks that its no longer taboo to talk freely about periods
- Wear those really horrible half tight popsock things
- Thinks they can get away without shaving their legs
- Turns regular events into moments, eg don’t you remember this is the place we had our first larger top etc etc
- speaking with your mouthful
- girls who give more attention to their cat/dog than you.
- cant stand aftershave
- takes all the pillows
- earns more than u and cant stop talkny about it/making reference
- film watching – asks questions you cant know the answer to,
- Starts talking in coo chi coo
- she has a brummy accent
- she laughs with a piercing cackle
- she’s carrying a few pounds but still thinks she is entitled to wear a bear midriff top or worse a thong
- she replies to very question with I don’t mind (apart from the saucy ones that is)
- She thinks she has a good signing voice and would go far on fame academy
- Has had a “difficult past”
- Never buys a round
- Everything’s an allergy
- At dinner don’t notice that they have got mayonnaise on their chin even though it has been there 10 minutes
- Insist on putting that lip gloss stuff on that makes you feel like you are kissing a post it note
- Get lip stick on your glass when they want to try a bit of beer (ditto cigs)
- Don’t understand that lying in front of the TV on a Saturday does constitute “doing something”
- Indicates when driving when only a slight swerve is necessary
- Wears trainers with a suit skirt
- After you have finished a telephone conversation with a friend she asks you if you asked him a certain question when she has been listening all along anyway and knows you haven’t.
- has a bigger dick than u
- red heads….no hair just a red head
- long hair down her back…none on her head just all down her back.
- more than usual allocation of fingers and toes.
- always sporting a camels toe.
- think that men don’t mind standing aimlessly in ‘birds’ shops feeling like an arse (apart from Top shop where chairs are provided)
- can’t understand that guys will know what they want, where it is and how much it costs and will only spend the absolute minimum shopping for it.
- always always asking ‘does my bum look big in this’, when her bum IS BIG, and looks big in everything.
- freely admits that blow jobs aren’t her thing.
- Has the ability to come home bladdered and wake you up to tell you every detail of the night – yes ….every detail
- Inability to open doors quietly past midnight after one glass of white wine
- The need to phone 40 times of an evening on her journey home – again after one glass of white wine
- very hairy nipples
- Shoes shoes shoes and more shoes
- Your clothes always get the smallest amount of room in cupboards and draws
- Loo seat always has to be down
- Thinks it is ok to go to the loo while your in the shower……..going to the loo
- If you forget to put a ‘x’ at an end of an email/text gets in a huff
- Can’t pronounce the names of certain wines
- Makes you watch the full series of Sex in the City and Friends on dvd
- Never happy when going to the cinema if they have not picked the film
- she uses all the towels in the bathroom because she ‘needs to’ – usually cos she’s washed her hair.
- she spends an hour on the phone to someone she’s going to see 20 minutes after the call ends.
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